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Oct 22, 2026 earnings call — Record quarter and Norfolk Southern merger update

Union Pacific reported record net income of $2.1 billion and adjusted EPS of $3.53 for the quarter.

Revenue $7.2B (est $7.2B) · EPS $3.53 (est $3.47)

Key quotes

"we're very confident the merger application and the information we've provided are the most extensive and transparent merger record ever submitted, and it demonstrates through fact and analysis that the best way to enhance the U.S. freight supply chain is through the UP-NS combination"

— Jim Vena (CEO) · Merger with Norfolk Southern

"Overall, we are delivering strong financial results in 2026 as we consistently execute on the three key levers for our railroad success, volume, pricing, and productivity."

— Jennifer Hamann (CFO) · Volume, pricing, productivity

"Our 2026 reported operating ratio remains challenged by higher fuel prices, as we are currently expecting prices to average around $4.85 per gallon in the fourth quarter."

— Jennifer Hamann (CFO) · Fuel impact and outlook

Analyst Q&A 13

M&A talks and industry reactions

Q (Chris Wetherbee · Wells Fargo): Analyst asked how receptive others are to the merger, whether agreements with CN reduce other parties' demands, and if background discussions are ongoing.

A: Management said the merger is an end-to-end link with little overlap, the CN deal is nearly finalized, and they do not expect many additional concessions will be needed.

"This is an end-to-end attachment between the two companies that extend the possibility of how people want to move." — Jim Vena (CEO)

Handling faster volume growth

Q (Ken Hoexter · BofA): Analyst asked if the company can sustain upper-single-digit growth after using surge resources, and whether more buffer remains if growth continues.

A: Management said they have sufficient resources and kept a surge buffer. They put more locomotives into service and have 300+ people in training, and still have buffer resources left.

"Yeah, we feel very confident that we have sufficient resources that we can deploy and continue to handle the growth seamlessly and continue to put up the great numbers, the record results that we have done so far." — Jennifer Hamann (CFO)

Getting customer and union support for merger

Q (Jason Seidl · TD Cowen): Analyst asked whether management is seeking more customer or union support ahead of the comments period and if more support letters are expected.

A: Management said they are waiting for the comment filings; they have strong customer support with over 500 support letters, and some unions signed up quickly while some oppose the deal.

"On the customer side, we have over 500 customers that have written letters of support across this spectrum." — Jim Vena (CEO)

Sources of intermodal growth

Q (Walter Spracklin · RBC): Analyst asked whether intermodal growth is from a recovering economy, business wins, or truck-to-rail conversion and to size these drivers.

A: Management said growth is all three but started before fuel moved up; the service product and prior network investments are the foundation enabling the wins.

"You put it all together, it is all of it, but it starts with the foundation of a strong service product, the investments we have made in the network." — Kenny Rocker

Intermodal profitability and costs

Q (David Vernon · Bernstein): Analyst asked why intermodal RPUs looked light, whether mix, accessorials or purchase services are affecting profitability, and outlook into 2027.

A: Management said some cost increases reflect higher drayage and ramp contractor costs as volumes through the Loup subsidiary grow; other intermodal-related revenue lines rose strongly and they work with both asset and non-asset partners.

"As intermodal volumes grow with them, we tend to see an increase in some of the drayage costs." — Jennifer Hamann (CFO)

Demand outlook and consumer trends

Q (Stephanie Moore · Jefferies): Analyst asked what customers are saying about demand for the rest of the year and whether softer food & beverage signals broader consumer weakness.

A: Management said they see broad industrial strength and have not seen indicators of consumer spending slowing; some sectors face inflation pressure but many customers continue to spend.

"We have not seen or any indicator of the consumer slowing down, that the consumer spends." — Jim Vena (CEO)

Fuel efficiency and Q4 fuel impact

Q (Jordan Alliger · Goldman Sachs): Analyst asked what more the company can do on fuel efficiency and how fuel volatility will affect Q4 results.

A: Management detailed fuel-conservation fundamentals and tech initiatives and said they expect fourth-quarter fuel prices around $4.85 a gallon versus $4.21 in Q3, so Q4 will likely see a larger fuel drag.

"You heard me say that we are looking at pricing right now in terms of fuel prices for the fourth quarter to be around $4.85 a gallon." — Jennifer Hamann (CFO)

Customer worry about downstream consolidation

Q (Ariel Rosa · Citi): Analyst asked what management tells customers who worry that this merger could trigger more consolidation and hurt competition.

A: Management said they meet many customers and, after reviewing the merger details, most see efficiency benefits; customers understand commodity competition and value the operational improvements.

"I have met, Kenny, I could probably pretty fairly say between you and me, hundreds of customers, and we talked through" — Jim Vena (CEO)

Fourth quarter operating ratio and seasonality

Q (Brian Ossenbeck · JPMorgan): Analyst asked about Q4 operating ratio puts and takes, and how seasonality and fuel will affect OR.

A: Management said seasonality and holidays may cause a modest absolute step back in volumes, but they expect continued YoY core OR improvements and have line of sight to efficiently move growth.

"On a core operating basis, you have seen us make YoY improvements to our core OR, and that is going to continue." — Jennifer Hamann (CFO)

Short lines and CN deal effects

Q (Tom Wadewitz · UBS): Analyst asked whether short-lining branch lines or selling pieces of railroad might be part of negotiations and whether the CN deal prevents giving access on St. Louis–Kansas City.

A: Management said the CN deal fixes a small overlap and they are unlikely to sell large parts of their railroad; they think short lines can be useful but prefer to keep operations internal unless a sale clearly grows business.

"We are pretty good at dealing with customers. We are pretty good at growing the business and a lot of the business that is being given." — Jim Vena (CEO)

Limits to workforce productivity gains

Q (Jonathan Chappell · Evercore): Analyst asked whether continued top-line growth will make further workforce productivity gains harder or if opportunities remain.

A: Management said productivity focus is perpetual and aims to put frontline teams in the best position to compete; they see ongoing opportunities from fundamentals, technology, and daily improvements.

"There's always going to be a drive and a strong commitment to put Kenny and the team in the best possible position." — Eric Gehringer

Technology differences and autonomous trucking

Q (Richa Harnain · Deutsche Bank): Analyst asked if NS has tech UP lacks and whether autonomous trucking is a real competitive threat.

A: Management said they will take the best tech from each railroad (noted NS wayside inspection tech is impressive) and that autonomous trucking will happen, but rail's efficiency and execution remain core advantages.

"One example, just briefly, their wayside technology for the inspection of rolling stock, whether that is locomotives or rail cars, is really impressive." — Eric Gehringer

Union concerns and possible concessions

Q (Brandon Oglenski · Barclays): Analyst asked about the BLET opposition, vertical competition concerns, and whether management might offer deals to satisfy stakeholders.

A: Management said they will review factual comments due November 18 and are willing to talk, but they will not make harmful deals; they said existing agreements already protect many employees and they will walk away rather than make a bad deal for UP.

"At the end of the day, if anybody thinks we're going to make a bad deal for Union Pacific, we're not." — Jim Vena (CEO)

AI-generated notes on the earnings call transcript. Quotes are taken from the transcript. This is not a FolioObs investment view.

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