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Oct 20, 2026 earnings call — Record quarter driven by AI and distribution

Company raised 2026 revenue guidance to $204 million while reporting Q3 revenue of $59.6 million and strong profitability.

Revenue $0.1B (est $0.1B) · EPS $0.17 (est $0.16)

Key quotes

"During the third quarter, 7,000 agents used Atlas+, exchanging more than 75,000 messages with the platform."

— Matt Duffy (PRESIDENT) · Atlas+ AI tool

"More than 65,000 insurance professionals have now created verified Neptune accounts, and over 43,000 of them were active during the quarter, compared to 39,000 in Q2."

— Matt Duffy (PRESIDENT) · Distribution growth

"During the quarter, we renewed another capacity program on improved terms. With that renewal, effective December 1st, none of our active capacity programs will include contingent commissions."

— Matt Duffy (PRESIDENT) · Capacity relationships

Analyst Q&A 10

AI effect on expenses and new products

Q (Elyse Greenspan · Wells Fargo): How much could AI reduce expenses and help margins over time? Also, which new products or inorganic moves might be added to guidance?

A: Management said the shift to AI-enabled buying would be slow but could greatly reduce their largest cost (agents) and be very profitable for Neptune. They said earthquake will be the next official product this year and they will consider other climate perils aligned to their data; inorganic deals are possible but must meet their screening criteria.

"I think it will be a very slow transition, but it would be a transition that would be very profitable for Neptune, as that is our largest cost." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

AI tools for agents and Atlas+ impact

Q (Mike Zaremski · BMO): How is Atlas+ changing agent behavior and quoting/binding? Also, how do AI agents like ChatGPT fit into distribution?

A: Management said Atlas+ helps turn agents into "super agents" and agents who interact with it bind at a much higher rate; the product is rolling out to a growing share of agents and has already led to consumer-paid endorsements. They said they are fully enabled for ChatGPT and other AI agents so those tools can run Neptune quotes, but agent tools remain a major focus.

"Atlas+ is really our product to help turn agents into super agents, and we have two portions of Atlas+ live right now." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

Competitive edge vs new carriers

Q (Andrew Kligerman · TD Cowen): With more carriers entering digital flood, what advantages does Neptune have that competitors can’t copy? Also, could EBITDA margins exceed 62%?

A: Management said their underwriting models and the scale of historical quote and claims data are materially different from simple APIs and spreadsheets other entrants use. They also pointed to deep integration with large distributors and ongoing traction with partners. On margins, they said Q3 was already 61.7% and AI tools (both bought and built) could improve efficiency over time, but seasonality matters.

"I think there is a very material difference in the underwriting that's taking place, number one." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

Many quotes vs policies in force

Q (Gregory Peters · Raymond James): Why do you have 38.7 million cumulative quotes when policies in force are much lower? And any business impact from recent small storms?

A: Management said many quotes come from API integrations that run flood quotes every time an agent runs a homeowner quote; that does not mean agents always offer the quote to customers. They are working to change agent behavior (Atlas+) to raise quote-to-bind rates. On weather, they said this year lacked major hurricanes so weather did not drive demand; El Niño and other events may raise awareness but so far no big surge.

"When we do that via an API, that enables them to do things like run a flood quote every time they're running a homeowner's quote." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

Commission income and revenue drivers

Q (Tommy McJoynt · KBW): Is the commission income / written premium level sustainable and what drove revenue outperformance vs initial guidance?

A: Management said the current commission run rate is a good near-term level but renewals of capacity programs continue to be negotiated and can change terms; they removed contingent commissions in a Q4 renewal. They credited distribution work, product improvements (higher limits, endorsements), Atlas+, and NFIP turmoil for stronger growth and raising guidance.

"One renews in Q4 that we talked about on the call, and with that renewal, we remove those contingent commissions and got some favorable increases in the ceding commission there." — Matt Duffy (PRESIDENT)

Take-up rate and NFIP switching

Q (Josh Shanker · BofA): How has take-up changed and what share of Neptune policies are switches from NFIP versus net new purchases?

A: Management said public data are limited but Neptune has grown market share—from about 1% five years ago to just under 10% of NFIP size—and may be winning 20%-30% of new standalone flood policies. They estimated roughly 20% of their policies switched from the NFIP and the rest are net new buyers (existing homeowners or new buyers).

"The estimate that we have is that only about 20% of our policies actually came from the NFIP, actually switched from the NFIP, and everybody else is net new." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

Earthquake product rollout and leverage

Q (Paul Newsome · Piper Sandler): How will earthquake rollout progress state-by-state and what is your target financial leverage after IPO?

A: Management described the earthquake rollout steps: beta in California agent portal, cross-sell testing (they sold a first cross-sell), then API availability and a direct-to-consumer portal, aiming to be fully launched by year-end; it's an E&S product that fits surplus lines rules without extra agent licensing. On leverage, they said leverage is low at 1.7 times and they prefer to stay opportunistic rather than lever up to buy back stock.

"We are at a pretty low level of leverage right now at 1.7 times" — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

2027 revenue growth assumptions

Q (David Motemaden · Evercore): What drives the 17% revenue growth guide—PIF growth, pricing, or passing through loss improvements?

A: Management said they expect continued growth in policies in force and distribution and want to insure as many homes as possible while keeping portfolios acceptable to capacity providers. They are not modeling a big hurricane season, housing rebound, NFIP change, or major inorganic contributions into that guidance; revenue retention and new business growth are the main drivers.

"What we're not planning on there is a particularly strong hurricane season, any uptick in the housing market, anything happening with the NFIP, right?" — Matt Duffy (PRESIDENT)

AI agents today vs future

Q (Rob Cox · Goldman Sachs): Do you have data on AI agent interactions with your platform and what do early signs show? Also, what drives lower premium per policy vs last year?

A: Management said AI agents are immaterial today and more of a hobbyist exercise, given current homeowner demographics. On premium per policy, they said mix matters: selling more X zone or lower-price policies versus prior periods (e.g., after government shutdowns) can lower average premium even if limits or pricing changed.

"I would say it's entirely immaterial at this point, and is a good hobbyist exercise for people at this time." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

CFO change and price transparency impact

Q (Cave Montazeri · Deutsche Bank): Why the CFO transition now, and are you well positioned if AI raises price transparency?

A: Management said the CFO shift lets the outgoing CFO focus as full-time COO to automate operations while the new CFO is a trusted, experienced executive who already understands Neptune. On transparency, they said greater AI-driven education would expand the market and likely benefit Neptune because many consumers would learn their flood risk and many NFIP holders could save by switching to Neptune, where they have capacity.

"Boy, that would be a tremendous opportunity for Neptune and probably the biggest opportunity for us because two things would happen if everybody used an AI agent to get educated." — Trevor Burgess (CEO·CHAIR)

AI-generated notes on the earnings call transcript. Quotes are taken from the transcript. This is not a FolioObs investment view.

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