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Oct 27, 2026 earnings call — Agreement to acquire MidCap Financial Investment

ARCC announced agreement to acquire MidCap Financial and reported core earnings of $0.46 per share.

Revenue $0.8B (est $0.8B) · EPS $0.46 (est $0.48)

Key quotes

"Most notably, this morning, we announced our agreement to acquire MidCap Financial Investment Corporation, or MFIC."

— Kort Schnabel (CEO) · MidCap acquisition

"Our underlying investment portfolio remains healthy as borrower cash flow growth supports strong credit performance and steady net asset value per share, while our level of nonaccrual loans and problem assets remained stable at historically low levels."

— Kort Schnabel (CEO) · Portfolio credit health

"In September, we issued $750 million of 7-year unsecured notes due in 2033 at a spread of 185 basis points over treasuries, representing the lowest new issue spread and longest duration in the BDC sector during the quarter."

— Scott Lem (CFO) · Funding and liquidity

Analyst Q&A 10

close rate and liquidity from deal

Q (Richard Shane · JPMorgan): He asked why the close rate fell below 5% — was ARCC being more selective or was it market repricing? He also asked whether the acquisition creates extra liquidity and if that can be quantified.

A: Management said it was a bit of both: they are slightly more selective and the overall deal environment is slower. They said the acquisition should help create more liquidity and that natural turnover and potential sales can add to that, noting historical repayment rates around 30%, 35%.

"I would say it's a little bit of both of those things that you mentioned." — Kort Schnabel (CEO)

why discount and if repeatable

Q (Paul Johnson · KBW): He asked whether the acquisition price discount to MFIC's preliminary NAV reflected expected credit losses or negotiating leverage, and whether this kind of deal could be repeated elsewhere. He also asked whether the portfolio would slow originations pre-closing and about the Symplr recap as a blueprint.

A: They said the portfolio is largely performing and most marks were similar, with the discount centered on a smaller percentage of names with uncertain outcomes. Kort said Ares' cash consideration was an important part of getting a deeper discount while offering MidCap shareholders a premium, and they do not expect the deal to change originations. James said the Symplr recap is a good example and a playbook they often use.

"I do want to highlight a really important point that I think is clear, but just to make sure it is, the cash consideration being provided by Ares management is a really important component of the deal." — Kort Schnabel (CEO)

accretion drivers and maturity dates

Q (Arren Cyganovich · Truist): He asked whether the modest accretion assumption includes upside from loans that were previously marked down and whether maturities around 2028 create risk. He asked what ARCC is doing proactively on maturities.

A: They said accretion is driven mainly by the purchase discount (higher yield) and ARCC's cost-of-capital advantages. On maturities, they said the expected percent in 2028 and 2029 is typical (around 10% and 13%) and they are proactively looking to extend maturities when appropriate, citing Symplr as an example of how maturities can be addressed.

"If you look at '28, '29, the percent of maturities that we're expecting in that period of time is pretty typical." — James Miller (PRESIDENT)

fee rate and portfolio yield pickup

Q (Kenneth Lee · RBC): He asked if the MFIC portfolio management fee rate will change. He also asked what drove the quarter's pickup in portfolio yields on a cost basis.

A: They said they do not expect any change to the management fee rate. Management said the market for lending has improved — about 50 basis points wider, slightly better leverage and terms — and recent base rate increases are starting to flow into results with roughly a 1 quarter lag.

"I mean, I think if I understood the question, we're just seeing a better market for lending right now." — James Miller (PRESIDENT)

funding: ARCC or Ivy Hill

Q (Jason Stewart · Compass Point): He asked whether the acquired assets will be funded inside ARCC or placed into Ivy Hill Asset Management (IHAM) vehicles. He also asked how marks will be monetized over time.

A: They said nothing is definitive yet but Ivy Hill is expected to play a role because many assets are minority participations and could fit IHAM; IHAM will review and decide independently. Kort said monetization is likely over time and that marks at closing will depend on market conditions and portfolio company performance, with closing still 5 or 6 months away.

"I guess I would say that I think Ivy Hill is expected to play a role in the transaction, just given that most of the assets in the portfolio are actually minority participations in these loans." — Kort Schnabel (CEO)

incentive fee and accretion

Q (Robert Dodd · Raymond James): He asked whether accretion from buying assets at a discount would be treated like income for incentive fee calculations or excluded, and whether the modest day-1 accretion assumes no creative allocation moves.

A: Scott said he is not aware of income-side adjustments and noted there is a component of the capital gains incentive fee that gets adjusted for cost basis, but nothing he's aware of on the income side. Kort agreed modest accretion is expected but the amount depends on strategic moves; he emphasized the deal is not large ($2.5 billion) and the strategic benefits are important.

"I do know there's a component of the capital gains incentive fee that gets adjusted for the cost basis, but nothing I'm aware of on the income side." — Scott Lem (CFO)

nonaccruals and debt funding plan

Q (Peter Troisi · Barclays): He asked whether the acquired portfolio will raise the combined company's nonaccrual rate. He also asked how the financing commitment upsize affects ARCC's debt-funding approach, especially unsecured markets.

A: They said they will apply ARCC's own nonaccrual policy and will mark assets day 1 at fair value as the cost basis; because the portfolio is small, any nonaccruals should not materially move the needle. On financing, the upsize commitment is a backstop to de-risk this deal if markets shut, and it does not change ARCC's broader funding strategy — they will keep diverse funding sources and the unsecured/secured approach.

"So when we bring the assets on to our books, as Scott was saying, we will readjust the cost basis to be our purchase price." — Kort Schnabel (CEO)

near-term funding noise; strategy

Q (Melissa Wedel · UBS): She asked whether winding down MFIC debt facilities could cause noise in the first one or two quarters. She also asked how increasing core middle-market exposure fits ARCC's strategy amid varying spread moves.

A: Scott said he does not expect noise and characterized MFIC's balance sheet structure as uncomplicated relative to theirs. James said ARCC wants to be active across market segments, can be less active in parts that are less attractive, and will be opportunistic — the core middle market can be more competitive at times but being incumbent is strategically valuable.

"We found over many years that different parts of the market behave differently at different times." — James Miller (PRESIDENT)

how MFIC compares; rate impact

Q (Ethan Kaye · Lucid): He asked for a high-level comparison of MFIC's strategy and portfolio versus ARCC's. He also asked at what base-rate level or duration ARCC would worry more about credit stress.

A: Kort said he could only repeat public information now and described MFIC as 229 diversified portfolio companies with only 12 overlapping names; MFIC has less software and more health care and average EBITDA in the $50 million, $55 million ZIP code. James said ARCC's portfolio has around 2.0x interest coverage, a 1% base-rate increase is manageable, and historically larger moves (around 5%) were handled well.

"I do believe it is very complementary to our portfolio in addition to there only being 12 overlapping names of the 229." — Kort Schnabel (CEO)

leverage plans and headcount

Q (Christopher Muller · Citizens): He asked whether ARCC plans to intentionally reduce leverage on the MFIC portfolio or let it run off, and how they will absorb the roughly 200 new portfolio companies — will headcount increase?

A: Scott said ARCC's overall leverage strategy does not change: target 0.9x to 1.25x and they've been around 1.1x recently, so the added portfolio won't change that. Kort said they will leverage existing infrastructure but expect to add some manager headcount and invest to support the larger portfolio, which they view as manageable.

"So I think we're still targeting the 0.9x to 1.25x, and we've been kind of in that 1.1x-ish range the past few quarters." — Scott Lem (CFO)

AI-generated notes on the earnings call transcript. Quotes are taken from the transcript. This is not a FolioObs investment view.

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